Today we conclude our questions from readers about disciplining and training our children with an excellent but sobering question from a mom of older children.
Also, be sure to check out tomorrows post as Debi brings us a Friday Favorite!
Question Four: Hi Sheree, I was wondering if you might comment, give hope, counsel, etc. for those of us who have older children who haven’t learned first time obedience yet.
Wow. Just reading this question brings conviction and, to be honest, some mild temptations to discouragement. As the mom of a soon-to-be thirteen year old with three of her six older siblings still at home, I’m aware of the frequency with which my kids seem to need reminders for things they’ve been asked to do. Or times when their sinful responses tempt me with thoughts of “I thought we dealt with this when you were five.” Somehow I thought that training them when they were little would produce young adults who would be habitually quick, cheerful and complete in their obedience. “Surely by the time they’re teens,” I surmised, “life will be much easier because they’ll be so well trained!” Such thoughts diminish when I look in the mirror….
Gratefully, life with my adult and young adult children is most frequently a blast. We share a warm and loving relationship that brings more laughter, fulfillment, and joy than I could have imagined. But they are still sinners. They still have a battle with indwelling sin just like I do. Laziness, selfishness, love of being served, procrastination, eagerness to do what they want instead of what they ought…all these things didn’t go away in their lives with all the spankings, introductions into their sin nature, and biblical truths taught over many years.
And if you didn’t know to train your children in cheerful, first-time obedience when they were young, your family has some making up to do. This requires wisdom and patience… and God is eager and ready to grant grace to those who run to His throne in time of need! If you’re getting a late start, don’t be dismayed. God can do wonderful things in your family as you start to communicate and seek to glorify God in new ways!
I still have to remind my children (and myself!) to respond to directives in a timely fashion and with a pleasant attitude. Two questions you’ll want to ask: Is the lack of timely, respectful and willing responsiveness to my requests by this child characteristic or uncharacteristic of him/her? Do all of my older children display these patterns, or is this something only one of them is regularly struggling with?
We’ve had to ask ourselves these questions about our children. If we’re discussing a child who typically responds pleasantly and in a timely way to our requests, we will often just talk with him/her and share our observations about an uncharacteristic change in their behavior or attitude. In this heart-to-heart exchange we try to ask questions prior to sharing our thoughts. We may find they are struggling with discouragement over something; distracted or overwhelmed by school or work responsibilities; or simply unaware of their lack of recent responsiveness. These factors, we learn, have contributed to a change in their attitude or behavior. Sometimes the conversation is a brief one, leading to a willing admission and apology on their part. Other times a more lengthy talk is required due to their proud resistance or sinful attitudes (i.e. self-pity, defensiveness, irritability, resistance to correction) which require time to lovingly — but firmly, when needed — address. And other times we realize we’ve judged them and have jumped to self-righteous, wrong conclusions based on a few examples we misunderstood or misread which requires us soliciting their forgiveness.
If the child has a clear pattern of sullen, delayed, or “enough to get by” responses to our directives and leadership in the teen/young adult years we know we have some work to do, with God’s help. A teen or young adult who is not growing in servanthood, willing responsiveness to our requests, respect, and diligence needs skillfull, loving and firm parental leadership. We have walked through this process, too, and it can be laced with temptations to weariness and discouragement. As parents, we must start with our example. Have I been modeling the responsiveness and cheerfulness I’m expecting from this child? (Ouch.) Am I looking for and communicating evidences of grace I’m observing in his/her life? Have I allowed these sin patterns to go unaddressed in him/her for some time, and am now confronting them because I’ve become frustrated or exasperated? After getting the log out of my own eye, and with Benny’s leadership and help, I can partner with him to remove the specks from our child’s eye.
If the issues you are facing are common among all/several of your children in the teen or young adult years, I would suggest that you talk with your husband about seeking counsel from a wise, older couple who knows your family and who can help you to discern how to proceed. Young children can usually be helped and trained over time to change their attitudes and obey Mommy with a happy face. Teens, however, are a different story. They won’t usually “put on a happy face” unless not doing so is going to cost them something immediate (lost privilege, inability to participate in something they want to do, etc). In such cases the “change of heart” isn’t typically heart-related at all. It’s simply a way to get what they want.
When you get with these counselors, you’ll need to ask probing and difficult questions to get real help. Here are some suggestions:
- Here is what we are seeing in our child(ren). Have you seen this in them, too? If so, give us some examples of (their lack of respect, sullenness, lack of quick or cheerful responses to our directives, disobedience, etc) that you’ve wondered about or observed?
- Are there any sin tendencies in us you’ve wondered about or observed that could be contributing to these patterns in them (inconsistency with discipline or training in their younger years, poor parental example, lack of teamwork as husband and wife, relying on self-effort rather than God’s grace and help, backing off from training and discipleship as they got older, etc)?
- What advice would you give us to help us and our children make progress in these areas?
- Would you kindly help us? Tell us when you see these patterns in us/our children in the future? Pray for us? Perhaps meet with us again/regularly for help and counsel?
- You can prayerfully, and with great faith toward God for help and change, then discuss with your husband and perhaps a close friend or two: What will repentance and change look like in our family from this point?
As you deal with the heart issues in you and your child(ren) please remember to trust God in faith. He is at work in you! He can help you and your children! He is not finished with your 13-year-old (or 16-year-old or 22-year-old) any more than He is finished with you (and me!).
We close this week with the closing words from Don’t Make Me Count to Three. I pray these words will bring you fresh hope as you tackle helping your older children grow in godliness:
“Training our children in righteousness is a process, but God promises that just like laboring in a garden, we will reap what we sow. Let us keep on sowing the seeds of righteousness. I can think of no better garden to plant those seeds in than in the soil of my children’s hearts. To God be the Glory.”
Amen.